pmb76
09-13 04:54 PM
I want everybody to get their GCs. but now interfiling/porting is hurting out position in the queue.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
I agree with you gctest. Interfiling EB3-->EB2 is the 2nd biggest scam perpetrated on the EB community after labor substitution. We must stop this dead in its tracks. It will lead to massive retrogressions in EB2 and keep the truly deserving candidates waiting for ever. USCIS just devises new laws on the fly without understanding its impact on the whole. I would call this rule very short-sighted and stupid. Nonetheless we need action at this point to do whatever we can to stop this mindlessness.
I am with you on this campaign. Gave you green.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
I agree with you gctest. Interfiling EB3-->EB2 is the 2nd biggest scam perpetrated on the EB community after labor substitution. We must stop this dead in its tracks. It will lead to massive retrogressions in EB2 and keep the truly deserving candidates waiting for ever. USCIS just devises new laws on the fly without understanding its impact on the whole. I would call this rule very short-sighted and stupid. Nonetheless we need action at this point to do whatever we can to stop this mindlessness.
I am with you on this campaign. Gave you green.
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singhsa3
07-20 01:05 PM
You are forgetting spouses , EB-1 and in some cases 18+ years children.
Also quota in 2001, 2002 and 2003 was 195K and not 65 K
no. of h1b issued in last 4 years 65kX4= 260k
even if you double that (which i m sure is not the case), still it come to 500k.
so ure over estimating it.
thanks
Also quota in 2001, 2002 and 2003 was 195K and not 65 K
no. of h1b issued in last 4 years 65kX4= 260k
even if you double that (which i m sure is not the case), still it come to 500k.
so ure over estimating it.
thanks
sertasheep
07-05 07:59 PM
A while back, we compiled a story of NJ members. See here (http://www.mydatabus.com/public/immigrationvoice/NJ_Stories_V5.pdf) Please meet with varshadas, who runs the NJ chapter of IV. If you are able to mobilize yourselves, you can get together
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All NJ guys can meet Congressman Pallone, without any problem. You guys are always driving around these addresses.....
CENTRAL NJ
67/69 Church St.
Kilmer Square
New Brunswick, N.J. 08901
Phone: (732) 249-8892 MONMOUTH
504 Broadway
Long Branch, N.J. 07740
Phone: (732) 571-1140
(888) 423-1140
Disclaimer:This is a PDF. Please use your discretion and exercise caution in scanning it for viruses.
All NJ guys can meet Congressman Pallone, without any problem. You guys are always driving around these addresses.....
CENTRAL NJ
67/69 Church St.
Kilmer Square
New Brunswick, N.J. 08901
Phone: (732) 249-8892 MONMOUTH
504 Broadway
Long Branch, N.J. 07740
Phone: (732) 571-1140
(888) 423-1140
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dvb123
09-13 06:35 PM
Sec. 42. 53 Priority date of individual applicants.
(a) Preference applicant . The priority date of a preference visa applicant under INA 203 (a) or (b) shall be the filing date of the approved petition that accorded preference status.
(b) Former Western Hemisphere applicant with priority date prior to January 1, 1977 . Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph (a) of this section, an alien who, prior to January 1, 1977, was subject to the numerical limitation specified in section 21(e) of the Act of October 3, 1965, and who was registered as a Western Hemisphere immigrant with a priority date prior to January 1, 1977, shall retain that priority date as a preference immigrant upon approval of a petition according status under INA 203 (a) or (b) .
(c) Derivative priority date for spouse or child of principal alien . A spouse or child of a principal alien acquired prior to the principal alien's admission shall be entitled to the priority date of the principal alien, whether or not named in the immigrant visa application of the principal alien. A child born of a marriage which existed at the time of a principal alien's admission to the United States is considered to have been acquired prior to the principal alien's admission. Sec. 42. 53 Priority date of individual applicants.
(a) Preference applicant . The priority date of a preference visa applicant under INA 203 (a) or (b) shall be the filing date of the approved petition that accorded preference status.
(b) Former Western Hemisphere applicant with priority date prior to January 1, 1977 . Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph (a) of this section, an alien who, prior to January 1, 1977, was subject to the numerical limitation specified in section 21(e) of the Act of October 3, 1965, and who was registered as a Western Hemisphere immigrant with a priority date prior to January 1, 1977, shall retain that priority date as a preference immigrant upon approval of a petition according status under INA 203 (a) or (b) .
(c) Derivative priority date for spouse or child of principal alien . A spouse or child of a principal alien acquired prior to the principal alien's admission shall be entitled to the priority date of the principal alien, whether or not named in the immigrant visa application of the principal alien. A child born of a marriage which existed at the time of a principal alien's admission to the United States is considered to have been acquired prior to the principal alien's admission.
(a) Preference applicant . The priority date of a preference visa applicant under INA 203 (a) or (b) shall be the filing date of the approved petition that accorded preference status.
(b) Former Western Hemisphere applicant with priority date prior to January 1, 1977 . Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph (a) of this section, an alien who, prior to January 1, 1977, was subject to the numerical limitation specified in section 21(e) of the Act of October 3, 1965, and who was registered as a Western Hemisphere immigrant with a priority date prior to January 1, 1977, shall retain that priority date as a preference immigrant upon approval of a petition according status under INA 203 (a) or (b) .
(c) Derivative priority date for spouse or child of principal alien . A spouse or child of a principal alien acquired prior to the principal alien's admission shall be entitled to the priority date of the principal alien, whether or not named in the immigrant visa application of the principal alien. A child born of a marriage which existed at the time of a principal alien's admission to the United States is considered to have been acquired prior to the principal alien's admission. Sec. 42. 53 Priority date of individual applicants.
(a) Preference applicant . The priority date of a preference visa applicant under INA 203 (a) or (b) shall be the filing date of the approved petition that accorded preference status.
(b) Former Western Hemisphere applicant with priority date prior to January 1, 1977 . Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph (a) of this section, an alien who, prior to January 1, 1977, was subject to the numerical limitation specified in section 21(e) of the Act of October 3, 1965, and who was registered as a Western Hemisphere immigrant with a priority date prior to January 1, 1977, shall retain that priority date as a preference immigrant upon approval of a petition according status under INA 203 (a) or (b) .
(c) Derivative priority date for spouse or child of principal alien . A spouse or child of a principal alien acquired prior to the principal alien's admission shall be entitled to the priority date of the principal alien, whether or not named in the immigrant visa application of the principal alien. A child born of a marriage which existed at the time of a principal alien's admission to the United States is considered to have been acquired prior to the principal alien's admission.
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DDLMODES
07-06 10:27 AM
Nixstor,
AILA's publication itself said that checks were not done... Its evident on also. If you refrain from spicing up things its never going to come up in media. Who cares if 500 mm immigrants are backlogged ?
You are saying that authorities will take retaliatory measures for saying something that really bad happened. Then dont even talk about lawsuit etc... Do you think a lawsuit aginst USCIS/DOS is going to please them very much ???
Take either Boat1 or Boat2 -- Please do not sail keeping your foot in two boats. I apologize if i sound aggressive but it is what it is. Doing a work
in weekend of 48 hours (consuming 25000 visas) which takes even more
than 48 days definitely involves bypassing CRITICAL checks !!
Truth is a truth - neither you or me or anyone can alter it.
Thanks!
If these are the ONLY arguments we can use to get media attention then let's not use them at all. This WILL hurt us more then it can help !
I have a question: Are you one of those anti-immigrant people because you sure behave like one !
If they revert the decisions for 20000 greencards and put the visas back in the pool, how would that help us ALL ???
AILA's publication itself said that checks were not done... Its evident on also. If you refrain from spicing up things its never going to come up in media. Who cares if 500 mm immigrants are backlogged ?
You are saying that authorities will take retaliatory measures for saying something that really bad happened. Then dont even talk about lawsuit etc... Do you think a lawsuit aginst USCIS/DOS is going to please them very much ???
Take either Boat1 or Boat2 -- Please do not sail keeping your foot in two boats. I apologize if i sound aggressive but it is what it is. Doing a work
in weekend of 48 hours (consuming 25000 visas) which takes even more
than 48 days definitely involves bypassing CRITICAL checks !!
Truth is a truth - neither you or me or anyone can alter it.
Thanks!
If these are the ONLY arguments we can use to get media attention then let's not use them at all. This WILL hurt us more then it can help !
I have a question: Are you one of those anti-immigrant people because you sure behave like one !
If they revert the decisions for 20000 greencards and put the visas back in the pool, how would that help us ALL ???
himu73
04-02 03:35 PM
Surprising but true. This was last week aroung march 23,06
Does anyone such cases.
Does anyone such cases.
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geevikram
12-12 02:44 AM
Thanks for your advise on paying to IV. We posted our way of thinking!
And to accomplish your way of thinking IV NEEDS DONATIONS. Not just for your smaller goals but for the overall good.
And to accomplish your way of thinking IV NEEDS DONATIONS. Not just for your smaller goals but for the overall good.
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andy007
07-05 10:56 AM
Bill Clinton & Hillary Clinton is coming to TANA in Washington.. i am from bay area.. i know lot of people are going this.. please take a print out and talk personally, explain our problems.. Please Thanks
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07-06 02:25 AM
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vdlrao
06-11 02:53 PM
vdlrao, Thanks ..good days are always ahead. can you tell me the reason for your optimism ? the problem I see is spillovers not going to EB3-I. at the very least they should have thrown some visas to EB3 out of pity :).
In fact that is the only hope ..i.e. other categories will be in 2006 while EB3 will be in early 2002 late 001 ..and to make it look better USCIS will give some visas to EB3-I. in either case do share your reasons ..TIA
as I mentioned in earlier post ..if EB3-I gets only the alloted visas ..that means around 30 families in a state gets a GC ..in most apartment complex(in the big cities) ..you will see more than 30 Indian families waiting for GC
Due to the lot of noice we have done,most of the law makers know theres a community called legal immigrants, and their long waiting periods due to the outdated rules. The new OBAMA government's agenda is to take the immigration reform during his first year tenure in the ffice. Once the immigration reform took place, I am pretty sure there would be significat changes in employment based category, which drastically decrease the backlogs in all EB categories.
In addtion to that "legals are first than illegals"- OBAMA. This itself is enough for clearing off all the backlogs.
In fact that is the only hope ..i.e. other categories will be in 2006 while EB3 will be in early 2002 late 001 ..and to make it look better USCIS will give some visas to EB3-I. in either case do share your reasons ..TIA
as I mentioned in earlier post ..if EB3-I gets only the alloted visas ..that means around 30 families in a state gets a GC ..in most apartment complex(in the big cities) ..you will see more than 30 Indian families waiting for GC
Due to the lot of noice we have done,most of the law makers know theres a community called legal immigrants, and their long waiting periods due to the outdated rules. The new OBAMA government's agenda is to take the immigration reform during his first year tenure in the ffice. Once the immigration reform took place, I am pretty sure there would be significat changes in employment based category, which drastically decrease the backlogs in all EB categories.
In addtion to that "legals are first than illegals"- OBAMA. This itself is enough for clearing off all the backlogs.
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09-15 09:54 PM
Today whole day i was busy bcoz of ganesh chathurthi......hope fund threads are doing good and thank you dvrao4 for the contributions. please attend rally we need people like you. thanks.
Welcome back Libra. Without you the thread slipped off the screen a few times; but chanduv23 was kind enough to bump it.
Welcome back Libra. Without you the thread slipped off the screen a few times; but chanduv23 was kind enough to bump it.
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Macaca, thanks for the analysis.
My question is, is IV paying enough attention to this?
What I have seen is that IV is spending 80% of its energy to change the current immigration law (increase the EB visa numbers in some fashion etc.). As far as I can see, this is not going any where due to a variety of reasons.
Is it time to rethink our priorities? If we put more of our collective energy to force USCIS to do a better job, will we get better results? Sure, the immigration law needs fixing. But our predicament is not due to immigration law. Our predicament is that the USCIS is not doing a good job. They are only working 4 hours a day. (I saw a post from a person who went and looked around the USCIS parking lot on a Friday :D. He/She says the parking lot was empty in the afternoon.).
I suggest that the IV core spend 80% of energy in fixing the USCIS bottleneck. We should have another rally infront of the USCIS doorsteps (or a flower campaign or a card campaign or a degree copy sending campaign). 20% of the energy can still be spent on fixing immigration law.
I do not think that USCIS bottleneck alone could cause such a huge retrogression. I do agree that USCIS should increase their efficiency and should not waste visa every year. Though it is definite that using all the visas allocated efficiently will help, this alone do not reduce retrogression to a greater extent.
IV is looking in the right direction in the long term. I am of the opinion that, we as affected by the USCIS, can take it up to make them accountable for the loss.
Thanks
My question is, is IV paying enough attention to this?
What I have seen is that IV is spending 80% of its energy to change the current immigration law (increase the EB visa numbers in some fashion etc.). As far as I can see, this is not going any where due to a variety of reasons.
Is it time to rethink our priorities? If we put more of our collective energy to force USCIS to do a better job, will we get better results? Sure, the immigration law needs fixing. But our predicament is not due to immigration law. Our predicament is that the USCIS is not doing a good job. They are only working 4 hours a day. (I saw a post from a person who went and looked around the USCIS parking lot on a Friday :D. He/She says the parking lot was empty in the afternoon.).
I suggest that the IV core spend 80% of energy in fixing the USCIS bottleneck. We should have another rally infront of the USCIS doorsteps (or a flower campaign or a card campaign or a degree copy sending campaign). 20% of the energy can still be spent on fixing immigration law.
I do not think that USCIS bottleneck alone could cause such a huge retrogression. I do agree that USCIS should increase their efficiency and should not waste visa every year. Though it is definite that using all the visas allocated efficiently will help, this alone do not reduce retrogression to a greater extent.
IV is looking in the right direction in the long term. I am of the opinion that, we as affected by the USCIS, can take it up to make them accountable for the loss.
Thanks
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ItIsNotFunny
03-12 10:13 PM
I already did. I just dont like this DONOR based thread idea. for reasons already stated.
Why reddog is not marked as "Donor" yet?
Why reddog is not marked as "Donor" yet?
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apb
09-11 06:29 PM
Contributed $100 yesterday. Contributed $100 more today. (Paypal Transaction ID: 3SC70877BD390151N).
Coming to the rally on 9/18.
Downloaded the petition and already got 20 signatures (not including family and friends).
Thanks for your effort IV.
You rock superdesi.. That is the spirit. Getting 20 signatures is awesome.
Coming to the rally on 9/18.
Downloaded the petition and already got 20 signatures (not including family and friends).
Thanks for your effort IV.
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03-11 10:07 AM
Hi Channj,
I am facing issues with re-financing with EAD thru Suntrust...Is there a way I can quote u to make the underwriter understand my EAD status....
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chanduv23
08-03 11:16 PM
^^^^^^^^^^
Please navigate to the following threads and do the action items
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11694&page=2
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11962
Please navigate to the following threads and do the action items
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11694&page=2
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11962
Raju
07-06 02:27 PM
The USCIS automated line for Priority dates is still playing the PD's for June 2007 showing that EB-3 India cut off June 1st 2003 etc..
We have so contrasting images of the efficiency of USCIS. Hope they keep the same tempo as of the last week of June on Oct 1st when the FY 2008 quota kicks in.
They were/are so busy approving cases that they donot have time to update the message. Everyone from Janitors to Execs have been working for the last week to approve those 66K cases.
We have so contrasting images of the efficiency of USCIS. Hope they keep the same tempo as of the last week of June on Oct 1st when the FY 2008 quota kicks in.
They were/are so busy approving cases that they donot have time to update the message. Everyone from Janitors to Execs have been working for the last week to approve those 66K cases.
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